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    Ladyelaine

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    CNN COMBO

    Post  Ladyelaine on Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:19 pm

    Rather/Hogg .... ?
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    Post  sinister_midget on Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:40 pm

    Is this what you're referring to?

    CRINGE: David Hogg Asks Fake News Legend Dan Rather For Career Advice Live On CNN

    Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting survivor and gun control activist David Hogg and disgraced anchor Dan Rather joined CNN’s ‘Reliable Sources’ with host Brian Stelter Sunday. During the course of the interview, Stelter asks Hogg about his future plans, even prompting the 17-year-old to ask the ‘God Father of Fake News’ for career advice.

    He has trouble memorizing his lines. He wants to mug for group selfies before going on TV to pretend to be traumatized by losing supposed classmates. He's been all over CNN and other TV for several years, events that are easy to find and attack his credibility.

    I'm not sure what Dan could offer as advice to top those things.

    And where better to discuss effective faking of news stories than CNN's "Reliable Sources" fact-checker frauds!


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    Post  Ladyelaine on Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:39 am

    Yes, that was it. The more I see of Hogg and his younger (14 yrs.) sister in various news programs, the greater I perceive their lack of respect for anyone with a differing opinion. This past week while stating his gun control goals on live TV, his defiant remark "we will out live you" came across as insolent and impudent.


    Most societies, even tribal natives, bring their children up to listen to and respect the opinion of their elders and hopefully absorb enough wisdom from them to help the young avoid temptations and not repeat some of their mistakes and regrets. Unfortunately, in this country due to the decline in family values many children have never visited or even know one of their parents, rarely more than one grandparent, and almost never a great grandparent. A lot of wisdom along with a lot of love has not been shared and passed along from their elders. That void is contributing to the anger, despair and depression of many young people today.
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    Post  sinister_midget on Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:20 am

    The entire generation has been force-fed the notion that they're entitled, they're smarter, they're better. The rest of us are the problem. And there can be no differing opinions other than from Nazis. (Yes, they actually believe there are real Nazis everywhere.)

    It's not by accident that this has happened. It's been growing in this country and western Europe since the 60s. It's a manifestation of what the Soviets were accused of trying to do by spreading Marxism. Whether they were trying to do that or not, whether they were responsible for it or not, it's here.

    To be fair, those people who turned into parents and did that were getting similar teachings themselves. The difference is those (we) kids got some of that from their parents. Their parents went through WWII, the Korean War and the constant threat (some made up completely) of possible annihilation any moment from a Soviet enemy. Their goal was to make the lives of their kids easier, more prosperous, better.

    What those kids (we) did was institutionalize it. It became part of schooling, it was pushed into the news, it slowly seeped into TV programs and magazine articles and other venues. It really began to take off when the entitled generation went to college and college started to tell them (us) how smart and important and better they (we) were. And they (we) believed it because that's what was being pushed.

    This has been growing. Now we're seeing the result of all that hard work that simply started out as a parental goal to make their kid's lives better.


    Even within a lot of the millennials that get described as "woke" (fairly aware of what's going on, can see the deliberate manipulation by leftists, media, schools, etc), there are still skewed values.

    For instance, the other night I was talking to my son, usually pretty level-headed for somebody that still needs to get some experience to figure a few things out. I had a dog die a couple of weeks ago. The other night I spanked the other dog for digging trash out of the trash can. I'd taught her not to do that before and she was good until the other dog died. After he died, she started getting so much attention and special treatment that she decided to push a few boundaries to see what she could get away with. Like a kid does. When she did that one, I spanked her for it. I know she'll never make me spank her for it a third time.

    My son went off at me. He's still saddened about the loss of the one dog, so he decided I was beating her (I was spanking, but not so hard unless it happens again) and got outraged at me. Never mind the whole talk about that, it got us talking about punishing kids.

    We had a long talk about punishment (he didn't think physical punishment was anything other than abuse) and actual abuse that inflicts pain for no reason other than anger (or even hatred of oneself). I had to point out that the people of his generation that he despises are many times a consequence of a couple of generations of parents not disciplining their kids properly. He seemed to think the thing that caused a lot of the problems now - trying to reason with little kids - was the best answer. So I told him I hoped he was never put in a situation where his 4-year-old runs out into traffic and he decides to reason with the child. Because what the child will take from that is the parent thought it was cute and they'll do it again. I explained you can't reason with an immature child with a mind full of mush about much of anything. That sometimes what's necessary is to show the child what they did or they're doing is unacceptable so they may live long enough to understand why that's true.

    I went back to the case of the dog. I asked him if he thought talking it over with the dog would help. He said he didn't think it would. So I explained that when I tried to stop it before, I yelled at her about it the first time, the second time I dragged her over to it and yelled at her, and the third time I spanked her. That one worked until the other dog died and she wanted to see what she could get away with. All I did this time was skip the first two steps because we already did that once. I told him I guarantee she'll never do it again. And I'm sure she won't.

    I also said that's the way it is with kids. But sometimes what they're doing is so dangerous that a couple of yelling sessions isn't going to work or they may not live long enough to get to the spanking stage. The idea is to stop it right now so they can still be around tomorrow and next week. I also pointed out that it isn't always a dangerous act that requires physical discipline, but sometimes an act itself is bad enough to warrant a spanking.

    Then I pointed out that until the 60s there weren't mass shootings all over, there weren't tens of murders in any major city every weekend, there weren't carjackings, there weren't rapes left and right, there weren't people killed just because somebody felt like it. Yeah those things happened, but nothing like the numbers they are now. Even when figuring in the increase in population it wasn't anywhere close to what it is now.

    Like I say, he's normally fairly level-headed. I know I at least got him to consider what I was talking about.

    Most of the entitled little snots you're seeing acting like they know anything don't have any adults trying to hold reasonable conversations with them. There never were adults around a lot of them that imposed discipline when they acted up. It was good enough to reason with them and sit them in timeout or something, with no real lessons ever being learned. The closest they ever got to responsible adults are people who were themselves brainwashed.

    I've tried talking with my boy as long as he's been able to hold conversations, so he knows how. Before he was able, actually, because you can never really know when somebody is equipped to begin learning things. A lot of those other kids have never really had an adult in their lives that had or took the time to help them learn much of anything. They've been susceptible to the brainwashing the commies have been putting them through. It shows.


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    Re: CNN COMBO

    Post  Ladyelaine on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:49 pm

    Hopefully, your son absorbed some wisdom from that session. At least he listened and he isn't likely to forget what you told him.

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