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    JUST CURIOUS: does anyone here still have an active desktop?

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    JUST CURIOUS: does anyone here still have an active desktop?

    Post  munchkin72gloria on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:58 am

    I used it a lot when I had WM.
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    Re: JUST CURIOUS: does anyone here still have an active desktop?

    Post  sinister_midget on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:35 am

    Not sure what you mean. If you mean what was referred to as Windows Active Desktop, then I can honestly say I don't and never have because I became a linux user before I'd ever heard of it (came about in Windows 95, discontinued after Vista). If that's what you mean I doubt anybody even can now since it's been stopped.

    If you mean something different, maybe you could clarify.


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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:33 pm

    sinister_midget wrote:Not sure what you mean. If you mean what was referred to as Windows Active Desktop, then I can honestly say I don't and never have because I became a linux user before I'd ever heard of it (came about in Windows 95, discontinued after Vista). If that's what you mean I doubt anybody even can now since it's been stopped.

    If you mean something different, maybe you could clarify.
    I have windows 7 and I know they stopped it because it was supposed to be a 'resource hog' but my computer was ok then and I didn't have a lot of ram.
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    Post  sinister_midget on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:58 pm

    Here is one that they say works in Windows 7.

    This one covers 3 possibilities, one of them the same as the one above. So that one might be a good bet.

    Here are 5 possibilities. I don't believe it repeats any of the others, but I may have missed one.

    Since I never used it I can't say which one is closest to the original.


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    Post  Guest on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:38 pm

    I have windows 10 on my desktop...
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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:39 pm

    sinister_midget wrote:Here is one that they say works in Windows 7.

    This one covers 3 possibilities, one of them the same as the one above. So that one might be a good bet.

    Here are 5 possibilities. I don't believe it repeats any of the others, but I may have missed one.

    Since I never used it I can't say which one is closest to the original.
    Thanks!
    I'll give it a try but not too optimistic.
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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:41 pm

    Joencalif2 wrote:I have windows 10 on my desktop...
    W10 will probably be my next move but don't know how soon.
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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:47 am

    munchkin72gloria wrote:
    sinister_midget wrote:Here is one that they say works in Windows 7.

    This one covers 3 possibilities, one of them the same as the one above. So that one might be a good bet.

    Here are 5 possibilities. I don't believe it repeats any of the others, but I may have missed one.

    Since I never used it I can't say which one is closest to the original.
    Thanks!
    I'll give it a try but not too optimistic.
    I started to download SharpEnviro but had to cancel because I couldn't agree to all the agreement terms. Now I see why it's a security risk.
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    Post  sinister_midget on Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:38 am

    I've been running into the same thing with phone apps. Why does a browser need to access my contacts? Why does an icon set need to know the state of my phone and wifi? What does a video player need from my texts? I've seen those and a whole lot more lately.


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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:48 am

    sinister_midget wrote:I've been running into the same thing with phone apps. Why does a browser need to access my contacts? Why does an icon set need to know the state of my phone and wifi? What does a video player need from my texts? I've seen those and a whole lot more lately.
    You're right: not worth it! But I have to give them credit for open disclosure.
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    Post  sinister_midget on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:15 am

    Some are sneaky, though. They add the disclaimer when you install it that they may add other permissions without notice later on. I've seen some I never would have accepted in the first place when I went through the apps looking at them. I can only assume those were added after I accepted when they told me about.

    I also found you can turn off certain permissions one at a time after an app is installed. I've been doing that. So far so good. If I find one that gives me trouble after I turn off things I don't lie, I'll uninstall it.

    I'm still working on trying to get rid of Android and/or making whatever I have safer. I found one, LineageOS. But my one attempt to install it failed and I didn't bother trying to figure out why. I just trust Google less and less as time goes on. I have a fiber internet connection with them and I either work with that, go to slower and less reliable AT&T who I trust even less, or go with slower (still better than AT&T) TWC/Spectrum, another company I don't trust any more. As long as I keep Google fiber, I'm still being spied on. But I try to mitigate that some with VPNs using encryption between my machine and the foreign server.

    Anyway, you can often find ways to get around the dangers of the internet on computers with various blockers, firewalls and things like that. But it's a lot of trouble to set up and check, so most people won't bother. VPNs can help a lot. But on Windows machines that's still a lot like putting a cast on one leg when both legs, both arms and the neck are broken.


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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    sinister_midget wrote:Some are sneaky, though. They add the disclaimer when you install it that they may add other permissions without notice later on. I've seen some I never would have accepted in the first place when I went through the apps looking at them. I can only assume those were added after I accepted when they told me about.

    I also found you can turn off certain permissions one at a time after an app is installed. I've been doing that. So far so good. If I find one that gives me trouble after I turn off things I don't lie, I'll uninstall it.

    I'm still working on trying to get rid of Android and/or making whatever I have safer. I found one, LineageOS. But my one attempt to install it failed and I didn't bother trying to figure out why. I just trust Google less and less as time goes on. I have a fiber internet connection with them and I either work with that, go to slower and less reliable AT&T who I trust even less, or go with slower (still better than AT&T) TWC/Spectrum, another company I don't trust any more. As long as I keep Google fiber, I'm still being spied on. But I try to mitigate that some with VPNs using encryption between my machine and the foreign server.

    Anyway, you can often find ways to get around the dangers of the internet on computers with various blockers, firewalls and things like that. But it's a lot of trouble to set up and check, so most people won't bother. VPNs can help a lot. But on Windows machines that's still a lot like putting a cast on one leg when both legs, both arms and the neck are broken.
    You're right again. Lots of sneaky ones. Can't really trust anything.

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    Post  Guest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:07 pm

    Windows 10 will do the same thing but you can go into setting and turn off access to contacts and most anything you don't want being seen. It just takes time to go through everything but Windows 10 is the way to go. 7 and 8 have no more security patches so you are running a real risk of other issues far worse than giving google or anything else access to your contacts in my humble opinion. Just be sure you have a good antivirus, one with ransomware protection, phishing protection and so on. You just have to be on top of your own security to be protected.
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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:12 pm

    Joencalif2 wrote:Windows 10 will do the same thing but you can go into setting and turn off access to contacts and most anything you don't want being seen. It just takes time to go through everything but Windows 10 is the way to go. 7 and 8 have no more security patches so you are running a real risk of other issues far worse than giving google or anything else access to your contacts in my humble opinion. Just be sure you have a good antivirus, one with ransomware protection, phishing protection and so on. You just have to be on top of your own security to be protected.
    I am sure it will be the same with W10 but at least I'll have more ram. That's the problem I have right now with W7, that's another reason not to have an active desktop, but I still miss it.

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    Post  Guest on Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:12 pm

    You can still upgrade to windows 10 for free for a little while. If you going to do that you might want to do it soon....after that it won't be a free upgrade. Or if you but a new computer or laptop they will come with windows 10 anyway...
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    Post  munchkin72gloria on Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:17 am

    Joencalif2 wrote:You can still upgrade to windows 10 for free for a little while. If you going to do that you might want to do it soon....after that it won't be a free upgrade. Or if you but a new computer or laptop they will come with windows 10 anyway...
    At this point it's not worth it to me to upgrade, even for free.

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