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    Trump and Democrats gambling on each other, hoping their core supporters will trust them to cut deals

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:27 am

    Trump and Democrats gambling on each other, hoping their core supporters will trust them to cut deals

    President Trump, by his second deal in as many weeks with Democratic leaders, has upended the political calculations of both of their parties: Many Republicans are left fuming of his betrayal, while some Democrats have begun warning party leaders against getting too cozy with a president they vow to resist.

    rump is betting that he can play the two sides against each other and finally notch some legislative achievements, in turn reassuring centrists and improving his dismal poll ratings. The risk, as the president’s nationalist allies already are warning, is that Trump alienates some among his loyalists even as other voters remain resolutely hostile, and he sinks further.

    With the latest deal, Trump could not have chosen an issue more likely to test his core supporters. After winning election on an anti-immigration platform, he has agreed with Democrats to seek a law protecting from deportation roughly 800,000 young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children — a group of whom he formerly said flatly, “They have to go.”

    After nearly eight months of playing only to his base, Trump’s moves suggest a stunning course correction. He, characteristically, expresses confidence of how it will turn out.

    When the fake news outlets perceive a change of direction by a Democrat, they tell the tale of a sellout of the base. When a Republican is perceived to have sold out, they sell it as "growing in office" or "a course correction."

    What they haven't learned is that their usual attempts to explain the inexplicable don't apply to Trump. So they're most likely wrong again. And will be the next time.

    I think, I believe, I hope that this is nothing more than Trump forcing the Republicans to get off their dead behinds and do what they're supposed to do instead of spinning their wheels trying to undermine him. Another article that I'll post next with this one hints that's exactly what he's doing.

    The only thing I learned is, when the phony liars in the MSM tell you that you've been abandoned, don't believe it. Because every time the smoke has cleared, they've turned out wrong. In some cases they knew they were wrong and told the story anyway. Deliberately lying.


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    Re: Trump and Democrats gambling on each other, hoping their core supporters will trust them to cut deals

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:34 am

    Paul Ryan Buckles Under Trump Pressure – Announces Border Wall Funding Happening No

    The media hasn’t mentioned it much because it proves that Donald Trump is decisively outmaneuvering the opposition Republicans. The tactic was simple. Mr. Trump reached out to Democrats with a basic “can we get something done for the American people?” request. This put enormous pressure on Paul Ryan and his cadre of obstructionist Republicans to start moving on at least some of the Trump agenda.

    This is Ryan buckling under that pressure. This is Ryan conceding the power of Trump and the millions of Trump supporters have forced his hand. There was certainly some DACA negotiation behind the scenes – as well as Trump’s demand for real tax relief for Middle Class Americans and American business. After about six months settling in and figuring out the angles of the D.C. snake pit, Trump is unleashing an Art of the Deal offense upon the opposition and they appear unable to stop him – at least for now.

    Every single POTUS Trump supporter who raised a voice in support of their president helped to push Speaker Ryan to bend the knee. Keep it up. You have real power and you’re scaring the hell out of Washington D.C.



    Yesterday the story was that Paul RINO said there's not going to be a wall. He supposedly claimed nobody in Congress wanted one except for one person. The claim was he was not even going to bring it up.

    What happened? Well, the media spread a falsehood, it got spread around all of the usual suspects' outlets and that became the "fact" of the matter. But along came Trump doing what they never expect.

    Never believe you've been dropped by Trump until the deal is done and signed. Period.


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    Re: Trump and Democrats gambling on each other, hoping their core supporters will trust them to cut deals

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:35 am

    And then there's this.

    No, Trump did not cave

    UPDATE: From the Daily Caller just now: "House Agrees To $1.6 Billion For Border Wall."

    ORIGINAL POST: The media crashed and burned last night over a Democratic Party lie about a deal on amnesty for some illegal aliens.

    After a dinner with the president, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said, “We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.”

    There is no deal. The president said so this morning. Pelosi and Schumer jumped the gun because they hope to gain leverage in a situation in which the president holds the trump card.

    Everybody who panicked about this Fake News was a fool.


    That includes Representative Steve King, a Republican from Iowa, whom I like.

    A lie travels around the world before the truth puts its shoes on.

    People who railed against President Trump for "caving" made two mistakes.


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    [*]They believed Pelosi and Schumer.
    [*]They believed the media.
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    Me? I trusted President Trump.

    I read their statement and knew it was a lie, or to be kind, an embroidery of the truth.

    The reason tip-off were the words, "excluding the wall."

    Of course the wall was excluded.

    It's off the table.

    President Trump has authorization for it. A 2006 law made it so. He is not going to relinquish that authority.

    But there is no Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals law. It does not exist. DACA is an executive order, at best a blanket use of prosecutorial discretion.

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions called it as unconstitutional.

    Trump let the Pelosi-Schumer lie slide until this morning. He literally lost no sleep over it because their lie helps him in negotiations, and that is what they are doing: negotiating.

    The only agreement they came to was what to talk about.

    He made it plain to them that the wall is not negotiable.

    Today, he tweeted:


    "No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote. The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built."

    Got that? The wall is off the table.

    Pelosi and Schumer's bargaining position is weak. They are in the minority.

    But they do have a position, and they seem to be surrogates for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Either man could stop a floor vote on any agreement

    They won't.

    This is a do-nothing Congress. Donald Trump's is a very active presidency. Contrast and compare. Congress needs leadership. Trump will provide it.

    Meanwhile, anyone who said he caved on the wall is a fool.


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