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    REPORT: House Conservatives Quietly Plotting Removal of Paul Ryan as Speaker

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    REPORT: House Conservatives Quietly Plotting Removal of Paul Ryan as Speaker

    Post  sinister_midget on Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:39 pm

    REPORT: House Conservatives Quietly Plotting Removal of Paul Ryan as Speaker

    Paul Ryan’s days as Speaker of the House might be numbered if conservative GOP lawmakers have their way.

    Washington Post reports:

    Several influential House conservatives are privately plotting ways to use the legislative calendar this fall to push their hard-line agenda — including quiet discussions about possibly mounting a leadership challenge to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan.

    The group has gone so far as to float the idea of recruiting former House speaker Newt Gingrich or former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum as potential replacements for Ryan (R-Wis.) should there be a rebellion. The Constitution does not require that an elected member of the House serve as speaker.

    While the chances that a non-House member could mount a credible threat to Ryan are exceedingly slim, the fact the group has even toyed with the idea underscores their desire to create trouble for GOP leaders if they believe their demands are not being addressed.

    The closed-door conversations are being led by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, in consultation with his allies on the right, in particular Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist who recently returned to his perch as executive chairman of the Breitbart News website. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and other Freedom Caucus members are also involved in the talks to varying degrees, according to nearly a dozen people with knowledge of the discussions.

    On Tuesday Speaker Paul Ryan released a statement saying he hoped DREAMER amnesty will continue.

    Republican leaders have failed at everything all year but watch them get this passed!

    My statement on the Trump administration's announcement on DACA → https://t.co/jtODbY0reL

    — Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) September 5, 2017

    Speaker Paul Ryan:

    Statement on DACA Program

    September 5, 2017|Speaker Ryan Press Office

    WASHINGTON—House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) issued the following statement following the Trump administration’s announcement to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program:

    “However well-intentioned, President Obama’s DACA program was a clear abuse of executive authority, an attempt to create law out of thin air. Just as the courts have already struck down similar Obama policy, this was never a viable long-term solution to this challenge. Congress writes laws, not the president, and ending this program fulfills a promise that President Trump made to restore the proper role of the executive and legislative branches. But now there is more to do, and the president has called on Congress to act. The president’s announcement does not revoke permits immediately, and it is important that those affected have clarity on how this interim period will be carried out. At the heart of this issue are young people who came to this country through no fault of their own, and for many of them it’s the only country they know. Their status is one of many immigration issues, such as border security and interior enforcement, which Congress has failed to adequately address over the years. It is my hope that the House and Senate, with the president’s leadership, will be able to find consensus on a permanent legislative solution that includes ensuring that those who have done nothing wrong can still contribute as a valued part of this great country.”

    Paul Ryan is so unpopular his numbers now rival Nancy Pelosi.

    Breitbart reported:

    To no one’s surprise, a just-released NBC News poll reveals that feckless Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has succeeded in becoming just as unpopular as his polarizing predecessor, San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi.

    The Survey/Monkey poll shows that 30% of those surveyed view Pelosi favorably, a statistical tie with Paul Ryan’s 31%. The two are also tied up in the unfavorable department, with 64% holding an unfavorable view of Pelosi, compared to 63% for Ryan.

    I'm hoping my guess here is correct and that Trump hasn't softened. So far every time I though he weakened a little it wasn't long before I found he was playing a game Washington doesn't expect because they don't understand it. I hope the following two things are in the same vein.

    He rescinded DACA while keeping it 6 months for Congress to take it up. What that could be (fingers crossed) is his way to put Congress on record where they stand. If the RINOs want to keep allowing "child" immigrants (many of whom are criminals and as old as 30) to stick around, make them vote for it. Make them put themselves in vulnerable positions come primary time. If they pass it, he could still veto it. But they'd expose themselves as the phonies and anti-citizen jerks they are. It's one thing to make a statement back in September that you can deny and claim to have changed your mind. It's a whole different game if you expressed support by voting to keep it.

    The other thing is one I just heard today. Trump said he agrees with the Democrats to extend the debt ceiling 3 months. What does that do? It just so happens that it puts a major vote on the debt ceiling, the budget, and all of it around the same end-of-year timetable as the DACA vote. In other words, Trump has no reason (that I can see) to side with the Democrats who are his enemy except to put the RINOs, who are also enemies and just happen to be in the majority, on the spot. The McConnell-Ryan crowd wanted to have a debt ceiling that went way out past the next election. But Trump appearing to be siding with the left makes that almost impossible without their game being public. Meaning backlash. Same as DARPA, they can say anything they want (like they'll repeal Obamacare, for instance). But how they vote can help or hurt them.

    Sure hope I'm right. It's not unlike Trump to play that way, so there's a bit of a glimmer there.


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    Re: REPORT: House Conservatives Quietly Plotting Removal of Paul Ryan as Speaker

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:25 am

    Since the Washington %#$@ said differently.....

    Freedom Caucus chair says he's not plotting against Ryan

    Freedom Caucus Chairman Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) on Friday denied reports that he has been in talks with former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon about a potential replacement for House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

    “I can tell you there’s no plan, there’s nothing there, and if I was working on a plan to depose the Speaker you wouldn’t be reading about it in the press,” Meadows said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." 

    The Washington Post reported Thursday that Meadows has been discussing possible replacements for Ryan with Bannon, the executive chair of Breitbart News who left his post as President Trump's chief strategist last month.

    "I can tell you I’ve had conversations with Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, both within the last 48 hours or so, and I can tell you that we're laser focused not on a leadership change, but that we change Washington, D.C.," Meadows said.

    But Meadows also dodged questions on whether he thinks Ryan is an effective leader and said that GOP lawmakers must focus on passing Trump’s agenda.

    “As an effective speaker, the only thing you can judge that on is the results,” Meadows said. “We got about two or three months to make real decisions. I believe the speaker is up to the task.”

    I wouldn't call that a dodge. But there's no controversy unless you make something out of nothing.

    The Post reported that Meadows and a group of influential conservative leaders had even discussed the possibility of recruiting former House Speaker Newt Gingrich or former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum as potential replacements for Ryan noting that the Constitution does not actually require the speaker be an elected official.

    Meadows comments come just days after Trump cut a deal with Democratic leaders for a short-term debt ceiling increase that was widely opposed by conservatives. Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) made clear after the president’s deal was announced that it wasn’t their doing, but they would support it nonetheless.

    Because they don't have much of a choice.


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