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    Rumors are ANTIFA is getting worn down

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri 28 Apr 2017 - 0:56

    There was a free speech rally in Berkeley on 4/27. ANTIFA didn't show up. I saw mention in one place they expected 50 people to show and only 30 did, so they gave up and left. This after the previous counter-"protest" they had where they got beaten back something fierce.


    There have been a few posts here and there that they weren't expecting their targets (people in favor of free speech) to fight back. They're wondering what to do. They've made noises about bringing weapons (probably part of what scared many off at Berkeley the second time) and doing a lot of training for a fight. But that seems to be going nowhere.

    As part of their reaction they've started selling credit card sized knives (with the ANTIFA logo on it, of course) and talking about bringing guns or other weapons. (Most likely thinking they could go out and shoot up beer cans on a weekend once, shooting for the very first time at that, and be skilled enough to not get shot.) But I don't think that idea sits too well with a lot of kids who think they should be able to march, cause trouble and destroy property without anybody responding.

    Atlanta ANTIFA got beat up pretty badly previously. They said they were going to show up at a free speech rally in Pikesville, Kentucky to recover the humiliation (not their description). Now there are reservations because not enough people seem to be ready to commit. The rally is on Saturday, so we'll see.

    Tonight I ran across this:








    The first protest they tried to crash in Berkeley ended up with them getting slapped around badly. They got chased away. That's the one where MoldyLocks received her famous face punch:





    I think that rally scared them the most. They were counting on girls not being hit. I saw some of their posts about that very subject. They counted on that. They were using girls as human shields. But they made a huge mistake.


    1. MoldyLocks had been throwing bottles at people. I have several pictures of her holding bottles. Some claim she had M80s in them, meaning the intent was to have them explode and force glass into people. This guy reportedly saw her doing it and this punch was to take her out and make her stop. In other words, it was defensive. If not for his own defense, for the defense of others.
    2. See that glove she has going toward his throat? ANTIFA uses those gloves to wound people. She aimed at his throat to harm his throat. The gloves are filled with metal pieces, designed to do what she was trying to do: cause damage. While I'm not sure his punch had anything to do with that, her punch absolutely did.


    The bottom line is, they expected girls to be immune from being hit, but made an error in arming them to do some of their own hitting. So instead of shields they made them combatants. And all bets were off when that was the case.

    Another thing that messed them up. There was a guy swinging a bike lock around. He hit and could have killed a guy he thought was a Trump supporter (just a guy going around asking questions, taking no side) by smacking him in the head with it. The culprit ran off like a coward. But he didn't get away with it.

    You may or may not have hard of 4CHAN. It's been around awhile. Basically it's part of what they call the UNDERNET. One section of it is politically-oriented. It's called /pol/. They refer to themselves as dealing in "weaponized autism." They're the people who have chased down and stolen the flag from Shia LeBouf, and also found him in the remote part of Finland where he was trying to hide. Anyway, they saw the video of the guy swinging the lock. And they put their weaponized autism to work.

    They used facial recognition software, compared the bridge of the guy's nose, eyebrows, the sunglasses he wore, his height next to other people, what he was wearing and anything else they could find. They saw him at another rally in a video and started piecing more together from that. And they found him:



    The guy is a college professor (a large part of ANTIFA in California is college administrators, maybe in other places, too) at some small college. An ethics professor of all things. /pol/ contacted the college about him. Suddenly references to him on their website started disappearing. A page to rate professors by students dropped almost all of the ratings of him, then dropped all of it after the he suddenly got a rash of horrible ratings (probably put there by /pol/). The college refused to respond to anything about him at all, and scrubbed almost everything about him from the site.

    Not long after all of his social media accounts were closed. The above picture was taken just before his Twitter account vanished.


    /pol/ contacted the police with what they had. The guy has been arrested. He's been charged. He has a GOFUNDME page trying to get people to donate to his defense that I saw yesterday. At that time it was something like $130 of the estimated $150,000 he said he'd need.

    /pol/ also asked in all future rallies for people to wear GoPro cameras on their heads, rip off the facemasks of any ANTIFA the free speech advocates can get close enough to, then upload the pictures to /pol/ so they could track the bad guys down.

    Needless to say, ANTIFA has a lot to worry about. Their facemasks are the only thing that can protect them from prosecution if they get violent. They know /pol/ can and will find them. The fascist professor proves it.

    But that's not even all. Police in some places are making the ANTIFA people showing up remove their masks or leave. They've been leaving. That happened in Alabama. Supposedly the Berkeley cops (who hid the last time there was a rally) started doing it, too. Which may be why ANTIFA didn't have enough of the people they expected. The cops probably started doing that because they were afraid the feds might send in the troops to put down the violence if they didn't do their jobs. The Berkeley mayor has been identified as an ANTIFA supporter/sympathizer. Presumably he told the cops to sit it out last time and only go in to arrest once it was over. Most likely expecting free speech advocates to get beat up really badly and ANTIFA could escape before any of them could be arrested. But the tables were turned and ANTIFA ran like little scared rabbits when they found out some of the people they planned on beating up were combat veterans, hunters, loggers, boxers and all sorts of people more prepared than them. This time the mayor didn't want a repeat of what happened before or to be faced with charges by Jeff Sessions if it was discovered he was holding the cops back. Also at least one person involved on the side of ANTIFA at the last rally was identified as police (by /pol/ of course). I don't know if he was a Berkeley cop or not, though.


    Anyway, this is all just one aspect of winning. I can't say I like all of the trouble. But I certainly am happy to see the fascists on the other side be put in their place.

    As an aside, MoldyLocks was the nickname given to the girl because of the nasty hairdo she was wearing. She's also a wannabe porn star who attracts weirdos who like girls who don't shave anything. I won't upload the picture, but there's one I have (partially censored, thank God - I use it to sicken ANTIFA sympathizers on the local Craig's List) of her former porn web presence. It was taken down (as were her Twitter and Facebook accounts) after she became known. She was seeking $80,000 for "hospital expenses" caused by the punch. Then a local CBS station interviewed her to make her into the proper victim. It was evident from watching it that she barely had a scratch on her. A small cut on her nose was all I saw. Somebody must've told her she obviously wasn't hurt and it was already on TV. So she lowered her GOFUNDME amount to $40,000 for "hospital expenses" so she could afford bandaids for her nose for a few days.


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    Re: Rumors are ANTIFA is getting worn down

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri 28 Apr 2017 - 10:35

    They're only semi-heroes. They're definitely a bunch of weirdos. But.....

    4Chan Creating A Face Database Of Antifa Members

    4Chan is one of the major forces today promoting civil order?

    When 4chan users are not busy sharing and discussing anime pornography, they can be some of the most efficient crowdsourcing researchers on the web. The /pol/ board in particular was able to find the exact location of an ISIS camp just by clues in a recruitment video. Their research reportedly led to a successful airstrike on the location.

    Their new research obsession is antifa, the loose group of anti-fascists, consisting of communists and anarchists, who’ve been wreaking havoc in the Trump era. The group uses violence and black bloc tactics and have been involved in various riots and street clashes with the alt right, most notably in Berkeley, California.

    4chan/pol/ are now attempting to create a database of antifa members through a crowdsourced investigation. Most of the legwork is being done by users working together, manually trying to match facial features and clothes to public social media profiles.

    They could use the database to identify quickly an antifa member who causes violence against people /pol/ believe to be on their side (/ourguys/) and report them to the police. Some antifa members are professors and teachers, and proof of their violent agitations could be used to get them fired.

    Notice even without training, those in the battle are recognizing the power of intel. Up next will be sending infiltrators into Antifa planning sessions with hidden body cams, photography with telephoto lenses at staging areas, running foot and vehicular follows after the protests to follow protestors home, and recruiting and running informants in the organization.

    There is already at least one infiltrator in ANTIFA. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there aren't dozens.

    The only downside is you have to be careful.

    The obvious downside of these crowdsourced identifying operations is that sometimes they identify the wrong person. After the Boston Marathon bombing, Reddit users attempted to find the bomber, but identified the wrong guy. He was found later, dead in a river, and his mom received death threats on the phone.

    You never heard about that in the carefully staged media following the bombings, and it was probably for the best. Hopefully they will be super-careful about IDs, and hedge everything for legal reasons.

    Still you have to respect the ingenuity of the new generation and its eagerness to jump into the battle. Nothing will shut down r-strategists like the threat of 4Chan’ers taking away their jobs, eliminating their resources, and upending their lives.

    These guys are a little like Assange in my eyes. They're doing us some huge favors. But they aren't exactly the most savory bunch to cozy up to. Not are they always accurate. They've improved a lot with their ID methods. But that doesn't mean they can't make mistakes like the one mentioned above. Hopefully they've learned enough from that to always give what they have to law enforcement to handle rather than outing suspects publicly.


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    Re: Rumors are ANTIFA is getting worn down

    Post  Ladyelaine on Fri 28 Apr 2017 - 12:25

    I find this alarming because so many (more than a dozen) times that I have been confronted in my life when mistaken for someone else. I must have some quite common features since it has happened in so many far apart cities in 3 different states. Heaven only knows how many thought I was someone else but said nothing. Twice someone thought I was their sister & they were angry when I did not respond to the names they called out to me. Worse yet, I had to back away from one who told me she was going to punch "the livin' hell" out of me and another (different state) said she was going to advise her dying mother to cut me out of her will for not visiting lately. Neither one believed me when I tried to convince them that I was not their sister. They finally left me alone after I showed them my government issued ID but I'm not sure they believed even that.
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    Re: Rumors are ANTIFA is getting worn down

    Post  sinister_midget on Fri 28 Apr 2017 - 23:23

    In this case there's no doubt he's the right one.

    Before the college took it down, some of the students who rated him made comments about his teaching them radical ideological stuff. Some said he was very much an adherent to the ideas of Karl Marx and anarchy. A couple said he was bullying in his approach to students who disagreed with him. His Twitter description, and one he had on a dating site that was found and since deleted, said he was very interested in authoritarianism and absolute government control.

    Some information /pol/ found about him was that his family all but disowned him over his authoritarian ideas as well.

    He was also found to have close associations with several known ANTIFA that were previously outed (in some of those cases they were confirmed ANTIFA by the individuals themselves, friends or family members).

    The /pol/ people also hacked his Amazon account. There he had placed an order for 14 of that type of bike lock just a couple of weeks prior to Berkeley. I forget what the other item was, but I remember another item that was related to anarchy or was ANTIFA gear.

    No, there's no doubt Eric Clanton swung the bike lock that hit the guy.

    At the same time, I wouldn't help them track these people down because I wouldn't want to be a part of any mistakes they might make that causes someone innocent any grief. I'm hoping just knowing about these things is enough to scare most of them off. It looks like ANTIFA wanting to resort to deadly weapons has already reduced their numbers. I hate to say it, but it might take a couple of deaths of ANTIFA before they lose so much support they can't go on.

    Remember, Soros pays these people to protest. A lot of the young kids are in in for the money. Add in danger to life and limb and a good many will stop.

    I had a guy working for me in the Air Force when the first Iraq war was just getting started. We were told to prepare to deploy to Turkey. This guy wanted nothing to do with it and did everything he could to get out of it. He was in the military. It was his job. But that was the first case I'd ever seen that I could point to somebody in it for the paycheck and wanting nothing to do with the possibility of what it might take to earn it.

    A lot of ANTIFA are just like that kid. They get to dress all in black and look cool and play superhero. But when there's a chance of real harm coming to them, maybe they'd rather sit in the dorm and play video games.


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